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asar 3 hours ago [-]
I think the reason is that after all the benchmark comparisons, anthropic models still perform much more reliably and better in day to day use. Every day now there is a new supposedly fable level model that then somehow completely vanishes in a couple of days. While fable is still the best model and if only it were cheaper less people would be hating I suppose.
This really reminds of the spec comparison obsession android users had in the 2010s. Every 6months an 'iPhone killer' was released, but they were only ever superior in total isolation.
dgellow 55 minutes ago [-]
Switching to a different AI vendor has way less friction than switching between phone ecosystem
dzonga 3 hours ago [-]
the credibility of using vercel data - means the journos were lazy.
vercel is mostly used by the 'next.js' kids - so that ain't gonna paint the full picture.
again vercel is just reselling aws services at high marked up prices - so people paying for vercel again are most likely to pay for anthropic models. though we know models are a commodity at this point - without major differentiation.
what a lazy analysis.
dreis_sw 3 hours ago [-]
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sscaryterry 2 hours ago [-]
The choice of words is poor, but the argument is sound.
sscaryterry 2 hours ago [-]
Nope, Apple delivers the best hardware out there, Anthropic doesn't, they dumb dound, nerf it, put in constraints.
Yes, Apple provides a closed ecosystem, this isn't news. Anthropic is manufacturing the closed ecosystem themselves now, trying to capture via regulation.
exabrial 3 hours ago [-]
Great, can we have thought traces back yet?
mr_toad 3 hours ago [-]
My hot take: the only people willing to pay for LLMs are using it for code generation, and they prefer Claude.
erelong 33 minutes ago [-]
They do seem to have done a "better" job of marketing
But are disappointing like Apple for being a "closed" ecosystem
amelius 5 hours ago [-]
> Apple of AI
Except Apple does not really innovate. They just polish until it looks shiny.
Just look at the upcoming flip phones, but the examples are numerous.
tyleo 4 hours ago [-]
This seems misinformed. Mac, iPod, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple Silicon.
Not every product iteration changes the world, but they’ve pushed the industry forwards much more than most.
If they, “don’t really innovate,” who do you think does?
amelius 1 hours ago [-]
> If they, “don’t really innovate,” who do you think does?
Anthropic.
tiagod 41 minutes ago [-]
I believe GP was asking who innovates in Apple's space.
And applying your very argument, isn't Anthropic just polishing stuff like Transformers and Attention that were invented by other labs?
amelius 27 minutes ago [-]
> Mac, iPod, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch
These were all existing technologies. Apple's contribution is in making them more user friendly for some definition of user and friendly.
> Apple Silicon
They made some improvements here, but they bought an IC designer firm to do it. Most of the real innovation in hardware is still coming from the likes of TSMC, ASML.
solarkraft 3 hours ago [-]
That’s what it means to build a product. So the comparison fits perfectly: Both offer the best polished (-> real-world usable) products in their category.
ygjb 4 hours ago [-]
UI, polish, and customer experience are innovation. It takes an enormous amount of work to build consistent user experiences and build products that make choices on behalf of users that don't alienate those same users, yet Apple is able to consistently do that in ways that produce fervent customers who love their products.
I personally don't like or use most Apple products outside of my work MacBook pro, but I recognize the value and innovations there.
This really reminds of the spec comparison obsession android users had in the 2010s. Every 6months an 'iPhone killer' was released, but they were only ever superior in total isolation.
vercel is mostly used by the 'next.js' kids - so that ain't gonna paint the full picture.
again vercel is just reselling aws services at high marked up prices - so people paying for vercel again are most likely to pay for anthropic models. though we know models are a commodity at this point - without major differentiation.
what a lazy analysis.
Yes, Apple provides a closed ecosystem, this isn't news. Anthropic is manufacturing the closed ecosystem themselves now, trying to capture via regulation.
But are disappointing like Apple for being a "closed" ecosystem
Except Apple does not really innovate. They just polish until it looks shiny.
Just look at the upcoming flip phones, but the examples are numerous.
Not every product iteration changes the world, but they’ve pushed the industry forwards much more than most.
If they, “don’t really innovate,” who do you think does?
Anthropic.
And applying your very argument, isn't Anthropic just polishing stuff like Transformers and Attention that were invented by other labs?
These were all existing technologies. Apple's contribution is in making them more user friendly for some definition of user and friendly.
> Apple Silicon
They made some improvements here, but they bought an IC designer firm to do it. Most of the real innovation in hardware is still coming from the likes of TSMC, ASML.
I personally don't like or use most Apple products outside of my work MacBook pro, but I recognize the value and innovations there.